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#1089
Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
most of the time the gate would be on top of the cavity or (upper) top of the mold cavity
as the mold sits in the injection press to help in filling of the mold or at the end were the injection happens.?
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#1090
Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
Zinker wrote:
Here is another badge with similar marks.

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in this photo looks like it is made of two parts and rivet together.
and my have come from a 2 cavity family mold ,both parts made at the same time.
the rivet may be part of ejection pins boss and used to rivet the two parts together?
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#1091
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Zinker wrote:
2 in this photo i can see the line that is formed from the slide action that
made the hook.
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#1092
Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
Zinker wrote:
Here is another badge with similar marks.

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in this photo you can see the ejection pins they are even all the way a round
to help eject the part from the mold.
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#1093
Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
sorry my spelling was off (ejector pins) not injector pins
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#1094
Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
Hi Wickee,

Thanks for the replies. OK, so I think we are on the same page, and we agree that the 4 large circular marks are probably EJECTOR pin marks, right? Here is another badge with similar marks, and it is all 1 piece. I agree that the catch at the bottom of the badge was made with sliding die parts to create the shape, but I still search for where they did indeed INJECT the molten zink?

Do you also agree that in most molding applications, there is only 1 Injection port?

Can you recommend any good books on the subject of die casting, injection moulding, etc?

Thanks a bunch Wickee!

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Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
Here is the picture.

In addition to all that has been said, additional reasoning for me to think these 4 ciruclar pads are EJECTOR marks is that they are in the corners of the badge and even off the die in some places. Why would the INJECTOR put the metal into an area of the die that was not part of the casting, doesn't make sense. These have to be EJECTOR marks in my opinion.

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#1096
Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
a very interesting discussion. i would have thought that the mold would be injected through the pin hinge as this is the only rough area that could be cleaned up after casting without leaving a blemish on the badge.
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Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
Zinker wrote:
Hi Wickee,

Thanks for the replies. OK, so I think we are on the same page, and we agree that the 4 large circular marks are probably EJECTOR pin marks, right? Here is another badge with similar marks, and it is all 1 piece. I agree that the catch at the bottom of the badge was made with sliding die parts to create the shape, but I still search for where they did indeed INJECT the molten zink?

Do you also agree that in most molding applications, there is only 1 Injection port?

Can you recommend any good books on the subject of die casting, injection moulding, etc?

Thanks a bunch Wickee!

Zinker

yes i think there was only one injection gate most likley a edge gate.
some were on the outside of the badge. they may have removed it by polishing it.
it is hard to say if i had the part i could tell you for sure.
books,, maybe a school book from a college or try your library .
if i find one i will recommend it to you
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Re:Ejector Pads OR Injector location?? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
en.There are four major steps in the die casting process. First, the mold is sprayed with lubricant and closed. The lubricant both helps control the temperature of the die and it also assists in the removal of the casting. Molten metal is then shot into the die under high pressure; between 10—175 MPa (1,500—25,000 psi). Once the die is filled the pressure is maintained until the casting has solidified. Finally, the die is opened and the shot (shots are different from castings because there can be multiple cavities in a die, yielding multiple castings per shot) is ejected by the ejector pins. Finally, the scrap, which includes the gate, runners, sprues and flash, must be separated from the casting(s). This is often done using a special trim die in a power press or hydraulic press. An older method is separating by hand or by sawing, which case grinding may be necessary to smooth the scrap marks. A less labor-intensive method is to tumble shots if gates are thin and easily broken; separation of gates from finished parts must follow. This scrap is recycled by remelting it.[3] Approximately 15% of the metal used is wasted or lost due to a variety of factors.[citation needed]

The high-pressure injection leads to a quick fill of the die, which is required so the entire cavity fills before any part of the casting solidifies. In this way, discontinuities are avoided even if the shape requires difficult-to-fill thin sections. This creates the problem of air entrapment, because when the mold is filled quickly there is little time for the air to escape. This problem is minimized by including vents along the parting lines, however, even in a highly refined process there will still be some porosity in the center of the casting.[4]

Most die casters perform other secondary operations to produce features not readily castable, such as tapping a hole, polishing, plating, buffing, or painting.


[edit] Pore-free casting process
wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_casting
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