thanks odd duck for the offer of the patterns but postage would be a killer. i have some large blocks of pine here six to eight inch square. i was going to turn them up on the lathe for the pattern. i had thought to use a milkshake container(platic one) and paper mache it to make the patterns keeping the smooth plastic inside for the interior (outside of the inside if you know what i mean lol)

or set a container in some plaster to make the pattern for the pattern. i also thought to make the inside cone expandable similar to the old shoe stretcher except it would be expanded whilst ramming and released for removal. just my thoughts.
